Leia "fITE ME" Organa (![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
oratorical) wrote2016-05-05 08:19 pm
oratorical) wrote2016-05-05 08:19 pm
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I don't want both.
[is essentially what it boils down to, for Leia. Does she want to know more about Padme? Yes. But does she consider her her mother? Not at all. Mother is and always will be a name reserved for Breha Organa alone.]
What you have with Kanan and Hera isn't entirely the same. You have parents that you knew before them, whereas mine either were or may as well have been dead. I was never concerned with knowing of people I wouldn't have a chance to meet when I already had parents.
[which sounds cold, perhaps, but it's how she genuinely feels about her adoption situation. The only thing she would have wanted to change is knowing about Luke earlier.]
I was adopted because my parents were unable to have children, you know.
[is essentially what it boils down to, for Leia. Does she want to know more about Padme? Yes. But does she consider her her mother? Not at all. Mother is and always will be a name reserved for Breha Organa alone.]
What you have with Kanan and Hera isn't entirely the same. You have parents that you knew before them, whereas mine either were or may as well have been dead. I was never concerned with knowing of people I wouldn't have a chance to meet when I already had parents.
[which sounds cold, perhaps, but it's how she genuinely feels about her adoption situation. The only thing she would have wanted to change is knowing about Luke earlier.]
I was adopted because my parents were unable to have children, you know.
Would it be different if you did have a chance to meet them? Er... I mean your birth mom?
[Awkward slip caused by talking about his parents, plural, then switching focus from him to her.]
Would you give her a chance?
[He doesn't know that she's already met Padme.]
[Awkward slip caused by talking about his parents, plural, then switching focus from him to her.]
Would you give her a chance?
[He doesn't know that she's already met Padme.]
We did meet. She was here a year or so ago.
[and that's part of why her feelings on Padme are also complicated. She's not Anakin, but she's not someone Leia actually knows how to get along with. Because Padme wanted the four of them to be a happy family, and Leia couldn't give her that, which Padme took offense to.]
[and that's part of why her feelings on Padme are also complicated. She's not Anakin, but she's not someone Leia actually knows how to get along with. Because Padme wanted the four of them to be a happy family, and Leia couldn't give her that, which Padme took offense to.]
It's not that I don't want to know her. It's that I can't give her the relationship she wants from me.
[Because she has a mother, and she can't bring herself to consider or call another woman that. Not after having everything she could have wanted and more from Breha Organa.]
[Because she has a mother, and she can't bring herself to consider or call another woman that. Not after having everything she could have wanted and more from Breha Organa.]
That situation isn't comparable.
[Because she obviously thinks highly of adoption, but she can't imagine herself giving her child up for adoption, because well. There's no need for it. She's the only person who can claim to be Ben's mother, and it's nothing like Leia's situation with Padme.]
[Because she obviously thinks highly of adoption, but she can't imagine herself giving her child up for adoption, because well. There's no need for it. She's the only person who can claim to be Ben's mother, and it's nothing like Leia's situation with Padme.]
I do, yes.
[She admits it readily, but her tone is a bit suspicious anyway.]
Who told you?
[She admits it readily, but her tone is a bit suspicious anyway.]
Who told you?
He did.
[No reason not to tell.
He pauses then, hesitating for a moment.]
He... made it sound like things are...
[He trails off awkwardly. "That's bound to be a pleasant conversation. 'Oh yes, our son who hates us. Thank you for the reminder.'" How do you ask about that?]
[No reason not to tell.
He pauses then, hesitating for a moment.]
He... made it sound like things are...
[He trails off awkwardly. "That's bound to be a pleasant conversation. 'Oh yes, our son who hates us. Thank you for the reminder.'" How do you ask about that?]
Edited 2017-10-26 12:29 (UTC)
[there’s a fleeting feeling of almost happiness when Ezra says it was Ben that fold him. He might not know who Ben is beyond her son, he might not have actually identified himself, but that’s a secondary thought. Normally Ben seems to keep their relation as quiet as she and Han do out of respect for him, so at least anonymously identifying himself as her son is a big step Leia can only see as a positive.]
He hasn’t been born yet, where I’m from. I don’t know much of what happened to him.
[because that canon info doesn’t exist yet because ben is rude and won’t share it.]
He hasn’t been born yet, where I’m from. I don’t know much of what happened to him.
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Edited 2017-10-26 14:41 (UTC)
His name is Ben.
[Because she can't and won't call him Kylo Ren. At least in this case, it helps keep his identity secret here if he doesn't want it entirely known.]
[Because she can't and won't call him Kylo Ren. At least in this case, it helps keep his identity secret here if he doesn't want it entirely known.]
It's not the same.
[For a number of reasons, if you ask Leia, depending on which birth parent you're comparing here.]
Ben wasn't adopted by anyone else. The only people he has that he can call parents are me and Han.
[For a number of reasons, if you ask Leia, depending on which birth parent you're comparing here.]
Ben wasn't adopted by anyone else. The only people he has that he can call parents are me and Han.
Maybe not the circumstances, but the emotions are. Right?
[A hint of uncertainty, because after all, he's never heard Padme's thoughts on this.
This isn't going to go much of anywhere, though, so he finally just sighs, backing off.]
If your birth mom ever comes back here, would you be willing to introduce me to her?
[A hint of uncertainty, because after all, he's never heard Padme's thoughts on this.
This isn't going to go much of anywhere, though, so he finally just sighs, backing off.]
If your birth mom ever comes back here, would you be willing to introduce me to her?
I can't say I knew what she felt. She was hardly very impressed with me when she was here.
[Because Padme wanted them to be a happy family, and Leia couldn't give her that. She couldn't accept or forgive Anakin, and couldn't get past her own issues about considering Padme like a mother.]
Her name was Padme. If she comes back, I'll introduce you, but it's unlikely she'd even recognize me.
[well it was possible, but Anakin left and came back with no memories, after all.]
[Because Padme wanted them to be a happy family, and Leia couldn't give her that. She couldn't accept or forgive Anakin, and couldn't get past her own issues about considering Padme like a mother.]
Her name was Padme. If she comes back, I'll introduce you, but it's unlikely she'd even recognize me.
[well it was possible, but Anakin left and came back with no memories, after all.]
[Ezra is such a good friend, she needs more friends like Ezra.]
I'm sure you can guess. She wasn't a fan of my viewpoint on certain people, and I couldn't give her what she wanted from me.
I'm sure you can guess. She wasn't a fan of my viewpoint on certain people, and I couldn't give her what she wanted from me.
[There's a mixed feeling of fondness and amusement at Ezra's response.]
That's kind of you. She thought I was selfish, I suppose, for not considering his feelings and desires.
[Which well. Leia has considered them, and her consideration led to her deciding she doesn't care about Anakin's feelings. She doesn't place her own needs and feelings above most things--a bad habit of hers--but this is one area where she won't compromise on that.]
That's kind of you. She thought I was selfish, I suppose, for not considering his feelings and desires.
[Which well. Leia has considered them, and her consideration led to her deciding she doesn't care about Anakin's feelings. She doesn't place her own needs and feelings above most things--a bad habit of hers--but this is one area where she won't compromise on that.]
What about your feelings? I mean yeah, maybe I think there's still a chance with him, but whether or not you give him one should be your decision, and it's not selfish of you at all if you don't! Not after what he's done- what he will do- [Ezra cuts off with a huff. Tenses are pain in situations like this.] If she knew how much he hurt you, then she should respect that.
[Ezra's feelings are the same as her feelings on the matter, as well as Han's, she's sure. But it's nice to hear a third party confirm her feelings, in a way.]
She knew, but she was of the mindset that since he hadn't done them yet, I shouldn't hold that against him.
She knew, but she was of the mindset that since he hadn't done them yet, I shouldn't hold that against him.
It hasn't happened for him yet, but it's happened for you, and you can't change how that affected you. Maybe in the future, if he did change, and you saw him do things that were different from before, or maybe if things happen to change your feelings- But those are maybes. Future maybes. Right now, you don't owe him anything.
[Well, Leia would argue that she doesn't owe Anakin anything ever, but that's a different story, and not one she wants to fight about. She gets what Ezra's intentions are by saying this.]
Thank you, Ezra.
Thank you, Ezra.
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