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[Leia gently guides Kanan over to where the couch is, past what slight remains of the once-great Solo Junk Pile haven't managed to be tamed. It's a good thing Kanan can't see it, honestly.]

He has visions regularly?

[ Kanan still isn't really a fan of being led anywhere like he's feeble or something. But that's his own personal hangup, and not Leia's fault or problem, so he doesn't complain, simply allows it. ]

Nobody has visions regularly. But some are more prone to them than others. Why, I don't know. It might just be that - like everything else - people have different talents and strengths.

They aren't something you can train, I assume.

[Given that visions seemed to be mostly out of the blue, from her own assumptions and from what she's heard from others about them. Other parts of the Force, she can easily picture training methods, but not so with visions.]

No. No one can control whether or not they have visions, or how often, or how vivid they are, or...

[ Kanan shakes his head. ]

All we can control is how we deal with them.

[It's about what she expected. If they could be a focus of training, they might be more precise or even tuned out if someone didn't want to see them, but as Kanan said, not possible for any of that.]

All things considered, I'd say Ezra dealt with it in a mostly reasonable manner. Unless things were worse when he first had the vision?

[ Kanan chuckles. ]

The only reason Ezra didn't run off immediately in a panic is because Master Jinn and I were there to stop him and get him to think about it logically.

[ He pauses, turning a bit serious. ]

They can be upsetting. Difficult to understand. Overwhelming.

[Ah, well, that explains a bit. It was an upsetting image, and she can't imagine how it would have been to receive that out of the blue without much context. So having people there to help calm him down is no doubt for the best.]

He did show me when he contacted me. If they're all like that, I can't imagine how stressful it would be to have visions.

They work in different ways. Sometimes all you'll get is a brief, confusing glimpse of something. Sometimes it's an extended vision or even a dream or nightmare.

Fortunately, I've never known anyone to have them often.

Luke has had them before.

[He's told her as much anyway, and she believes him, even if she doesn't know what it was he saw specifically beyond some vague version of what was happening on Cloud City.]

Maybe Ezra should talk with him, if there's another chance for it.

I'm sure Ezra would love to. I know I'm thankful to have so many Force users around here to share our experiences and perspectives with. I haven't experienced anything even close to this since I was a Padawan, and Ezra - never.

[ Honestly all that's missing right now is Depa Billaba, his own Master. ]

I know Luke hasn't, either. He's had teachers, but nothing like you and Ezra have.

[Which is sad, she thinks. Luke would have had a better time of everything had he had a more constant ~~and not blue and dead~~ presence teaching him directly, or at least would have someone to talk more about the Force and the Jedi with that understood more than the others in the rebellion without that first-hand knowledge.]

He's learned from Master Kenobi - one of the best.

[ Kanan will never deny that. But still. ]

We lost a lot, when we lost the Jedi Order. A lot of people - a lot of younglings - got cut adrift, with no support or guidance.

[Well she knows Luke was attached to Obi-Wan, and she knows he's learned something from him, but how much he learned is something Leia doesn't really know. She doesn't even know much about if Obi-Wan and Luke knew each other well before her call for help.]

He did, for a while at least. I don't know much about how close the two of them were, but Luke did seem fond of Obi-Wan.

Yeah, it doesn't always take long. I think a lot of us didn't get enough time with our Masters, honestly. I know I didn't.

Who was your Master, if I can ask?

[She doubts she'll know much about this Jedi, but it's a nice way to know a bit more about Kanan and his experiences.]

[ Kanan leans forward a little, elbows on his knees as he thinks back to his own time as a Padawan. ]

Her name was Depa Billaba. She was a member of the Jedi High Council, like Master Kenobi, and a General in the Clone Wars. That all sounds very grand and aloof, but she was actually warm, and funny, and kind.

No, I know by now that most Jedi are kinder and more approachable than lofty titles like that would imply.

[Stories she's heard about the Jedi were less about individual Jedi on a personal level and more about the heroics and the good the Jedi did during their time. But having met several Jedi here personally, she knows there's more than just those stories to them.]

[ Kanan nods, and then he offers something else - something a bit more personal than the heroic tales. ]

She called me her "tactician". I always asked a lot of questions, always needed to know why. She said that was part of why she took me as her Padawan. I think because she was like that, too.

[There's a lot about how the Jedi Order was that Leia doesn't know, and probably won't ever know due to not having a chance to interact with it in person. The finer points of Padawan and Master relationships is one of those, beyond the obvious. How Padawans are chosen for certain Masters, and whether a master even takes a Padawan in the first place. Those are all things she probably won't ever have answers to. But aside from that--]

I think I'd like her, if that's the sort of person she was. She sounds like a good teacher.

[ To be fair it was always both simple and complicated, and encompassed by the phrase "let the Force guide you" - difficult to explain to someone not enmeshed in the philosophy of the Jedi, anyway. ]

I think she would've liked you, too. And Ezra. She was the best teacher I could've asked for. If I'm even a halfway decent Jedi, it's basically because of her.

She'd be proud, I'm sure.

[As far as Leia's list of halfway decent Jedi goes, Kanan is definitely toward the top. Not that it's a long list, but even if she knew more Jedi, Kanan is still someone she's fond of and respects.]

Was she close with Qui-Gon or Obi-Wan?

Thanks.

[ He's not always sure he believes that, but it's nice to hear, anyway. ]

I don't think she was especially close with either of them, no. She, uh. Well, she was a little controversial.

Controversial how?

[ There are a lot of ways he can answer that one, because Depa Billaba confided many things in him, and he heard many other things about her, back in the day. But he settles for what he thinks might be most relevant to Leia's knowledge. ]

She disagreed with the Council, sometimes. She was a General in the Clone Wars, I said. She was a good one, too. The troopers all respected her. And yet, she believed the Jedi made a big mistake in inserting themselves into the chain of command. And she wasn't afraid of saying so.

[Leia furrows her brow, trying to place Depa Billaba's view of the Clone Wars with the others she's heard. She knows her history--the true history, and what the Empire would have the galaxy believe--but what she doesn't know is much about the Jedi's philosophy or why, exactly, that would be entirely controversial.]

The Council, I assume, was far more receptive toward an active role in the war?

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